Were you planning this move for some time or did it just happen at the last minute as you approaching the lip?

Ricardo: I tried it three years ago in the same spot (Ponta Preta, Cape Verde) and two years ago in Maui and almost landed it. In the PWA Super Session I saw the wave and I just went for it. I just needed a bit more wind in the sail (it was super light and I had a really small sail).

Did you think you were going to sail away from it?

Ricardo: Yes. I just closed my eyes and when I opened them again I just saw my landing with lots of white water around me and then I fell off.

Have you landed one before off camera?

Ricardo: Nope, not yet. I'm close though.

What are the ideal conditions for this move?

Ricardo: The wind a bit offshore with a clean down-the-line wave and a nice lip.

Do you think you can become consistent at them, say ready for a competition heat?

Ricardo: Umm...I will try my best. We have to wait and see but I think it's possible.

How do you think it would score in a wave heat, compared with a goita or forward off the lip?

Ricardo: I think it should score a lot as it is a move you don't see every day and it's really hard - you need a perfect set up for it.